Maybe I should take a note from nvidia and sell them slowly on ebay…
Potentially, but not necessarily.
There could end up being some people who only use the Reddit group, just as there will be those in the forum who don’t use it.
Those two subsets of people would thus be ignorant of each other and of the events occurring at the other website. That is what I mean by being ‘divisive’.
People must remember to visit Twitter or Reddit or whatever other social media sites or forums they choose to visit.
If they cared about what goes on here then I don’t think they would forget to visit.
At least, not unless there was a particularly quiet period with little activity.
There are several RSS readers available, but I think the real problem is that most seem to be commercialised. It seems RSS readers haven’t benefitted from open source in the same way many other types of software has.
The forum supports ‘desktop notifications’ which can be enabled so that your browser will notify you when you recieve a reply. (Or at least it did last time I checked. I would assume that situation hasn’t changed.) Both Chrome and Firefox support these kinds of notifications.
Though keeping the tab open and checking back every now and again isn’t much of a hassle either.
Are email filters not an option?
Most email providers provide a means to set up filters to sort emails into folders.
Personally speaking, I don’t think competition would be a good thing.
It’s true that our Game Jams usually result in more content creation than other times, but I don’t think that’s due to competition. Doing better than other people isn’t important. It’s more about the personal challenge, and about the joining in.
I think the ‘Featured Games’ section of the main page (https://arduboy.com/) does that to an extent, although I admit it’s not particularly visible.
@eried’s Arduboy collection does a much better job in that respect:
But note that very few people actually use the ranking system.
The most votes anything has ever received is about 14 votes.
I don’t know what the average is, but I’d imagine it’s around 4-6.
Perhaps, but we’d still need someone to go to the effort of developing that kind of system.
As I said earlier, these things take time and effort.
That much is a fair point. Perhaps @bateske could find a way to make the forum part of the website more prominent?
The packaging should still be the same if it’s an official Arduboy.
I’m certainly not aware of any resellers/third-parties that sell the Arduboy with custom packaging.
Thinking about it more, I think the forum should definitely be more advertised on the packaging since I think it’s one of the Arduboy’s biggest selling points.
In fairness a lot of that is down to having good users.
The majority of our long-time users are nice, sensible people.
I think the way Discourse forums are designed helps with that as well.
For one thing, note the lack of a downvote button.
Hrm… That is a fair point.
If someone made a clone I would have expected them to need to visit the forum to get the information to do so.
I know there’s a few instructables that discuss how to make an Arduboy clone, but all the most valuable information is here on the forum.
My first thought was that’s a good reason to avoid having other ‘communities’,
but if they’re actually bad enough that they’re putting people off then I think we might have to try to find a way to take control of them.
But all things considered, I think it would be better to structure these things in such a way that they funnel people towards the official forum. We already have so much useful information that to attempt to duplicate it on Reddit/Twitter would be a big effort. This forum is where ‘the party’ is, so to speak.
Where there is one there are likely to be others.
Oddly enough we do permit those things here.
We only have a handful of pixel artists around, and most only provide art if they’re actually working on a particular game, but there’s nothing to stop people sharing pixel art, it has been done before (e.g. in this thread).
Naturally we prefer ‘clean’ jokes,
but I’m sure some have noticed the odd ‘dirty’ joke has slipped through the radar.
After realising the interest in discussing homemade Arduboys we created the ‘homemade’ category dedicated to discussing them.
(For a slice of forum history, see this thread.)
But to keep the Reddit group informed someone would have to be responsible for posting those updates. Unless a bot could be created to do the job in a suitable fashion, that job would fall to an individual or a group of people.
We already have all that here.
In fact we have two different quick-start guides:
We have two main tutorials. The main reason we don’t have more is that tutorials take a surprising amount of effort to write.
I believe we can create ‘wiki’ forum posts that anyone can edit.
(It’s certainly possible on other Discourse forums.)
It seems that essentially all the key Reddit pages would just be linking back here to forum pages to avoid duplicating the information.
Either way, I personally have no control over the matter.
I’m merely here to raise my personal concerns and hope that my concerns are representative of the concerns of others.
As Arduboy Inc’s sole employee, only @bateske can act upon that and be responsible for its management.
I think the biggest thing to take away from this is that the forum could be better advertised, though I for one am doubtful that creating a Reddit group is the best way to do it.
Twitter I am less concerned about because people are likely to discuss Arduboy there anyway.
I mean, there are a lot of subreddits for subjects/products that have official forums, I don’t think the community has to have any kind of monopoly on where people talk about it.
It also increases exposure theoretically, allows more people to discover it.
@bateske, In case you “TL;DRed” the last few large posts and/or are low on spare time,
here’s the stuff that’s probably most relevant for your perusal:
- The forum could be better advertised, e.g. on the
arduboy.comhomepage, or on the Arduboy packaging (if it’s not too late to do that)
- If other ‘communities’ are being badly mismanaged and that’s having a negative impact on the forum then we perhaps need to take control of them
- Making an ‘official’ Twitter is something only you could do because you own the company
Pretty much every link on the front page that isn’t sales related takes you to the community. It has the most recent games and topics actually ON the page. What do you mean by better advertising? Do you mean like have a bigger blurb on what the benefits of joining the community are?
Yes, I’m trying to wrestle control back from reddit of the other one but they are not responding.
Ross ran ArduboyTweets and took it with him when he left, and I don’t want to like, create a new account and do all that. Celine had the instagram. It may actually be a net benifit to hire someone to do this actually since that would drive more sales. It’s a pain in the ass and having to start all over again just… ugh.
True, but you have to scroll past two screens worth of sales stuff before reaching a link to the forum.
It does, but that’s buried half way down the page, and it’s worded as if the person reading it already knows the forum exists and what the ‘the community’ is.
Personally I really think the forum deserves pride of place considering it’s arguably one of the Arduboy’s best achievements.
This would probably help.
At the very least I think the page needs something that clearly explains what the forum actually is.
(Preferably including the words ‘online forum’ at some point. The term ‘community’ is vague and abstract, but most people know what to expect from a forum.)
Looking again at the FX packaging (or at least the image that was posted in the Japanese translation thread) there are more mentions than I noticed the other day.
It’s perhaps not as obvious as it could be, but I can’t think of any better alternatives.
Looks like I might just be getting the subreddit back! Then you can trash talk my customer service all you want!
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